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Post by Cruise meerkat Youssy on Apr 9, 2019 9:13:21 GMT -5
What do you guys think the worst strategic moves in Endurance were?
Of course, Yellow sending Blue and not Gray to Temple after Bagging On You comes to mind immediately.
Another one is Shea fully and openly admitting that Blue and Gray have an alliance. Like you were kinda asking to be targeted there...
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Post by amplify26 on Apr 9, 2019 16:14:21 GMT -5
E1: I wonder how the game would've changed if Blue gave Yellow the Samadhi, rather than Orange. Not necessarily a bad strategic move per se, but Blue would still have the Brotherhood for a little longer, and consolidate its control over the island more.
E3: When Vanetta let Orange go next in Squaring Off (top ten anime betrayals)
Was Yellow and Brown's alliance with Orange considered an error on itself. Nicole had a bit of hindsight in the final four, but considering how she sold them off, it didn't look good.
E4: Michael's dealings, I suppose? They made Orange into quite the target later on.
Was Green not throwing out the Samadhi a bad strategic move? Not to say it would've changed the game much...
E5: Ike's early behavior was not a good strategic move.
Purple carrying Green to the finals...hehe. Well, Dakota managed to strategize to take out almost all his opposition, but the one thing they wanted ended up destroying them.
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Post by Cruise meerkat Youssy on Apr 9, 2019 17:44:41 GMT -5
I forgot about Vanetta in Squaring Off... THAT takes the cake for worst move ever.
I don’t think Ike or Michael really did anything that was a specifically bad move. They were just kinda shady, or at least the rest of the cast perceived them as such.
Blue giving Orange the samadhi in E1 was actually a good move IMO. Okay, Orange probably wasn’t gonna win even without the Samadhi but Blue didn’t need the Brotherhood anyway. Sticking with Yellow and Red was the right alliance for them because those teams were stronger than the Brotherhood teams. And by giving the Samadhi to Orange it meant that Blue kept their alliance with Yellow/Red intact. Which worked out because those teams didn’t target Blue in subsequent challenges
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Post by crystalclearhawaii on Apr 9, 2019 18:13:29 GMT -5
Omg Vanetta in Squaring Off... I can never watch that episode because of how awful that move was. Like I could even tell Tom regretted letting her get away with it.
Honestly it seemed like Tom and Vanetta were allied with opposite sides, lol.
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Post by Cruise meerkat Youssy on Apr 9, 2019 18:36:25 GMT -5
Omg Vanetta in Squaring Off... I can never watch that episode because of how awful that move was. Like I could even tell Tom regretted letting her get away with it. Honestly it seemed like Tom and Vanetta were allied with opposite sides, lol. They kinda were. Vanetta seemed to be really good friends with nicole, without realizing that Nicole wasn’t going to protect her team |
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Post by carsonvega on Apr 10, 2019 2:04:29 GMT -5
I agree with a lot of what's been posted so far. In addition to those:
E1: Blue removes the Samadhi at F3 instead of giving it to Yellow.
Yeah, they won anyway, but Yellow had beaten them in a couple of missions up to that point. And of course, if they'd have lost Leap of Faith, they would have gone to temple.
E2: Purple sends Yellow instead of Green with Brown to temple at F5.
Green was a much stronger team than Yellow, and wanted to get rid of Purple just as much - they were just better than Calley at not getting into it with Annie.
E3: Purple sends Brown instead of Orange with Yellow to temple at F5.
I admire Tom for soldiering on after Vanetta got medevaced...but not having a partner in Endurance is like having a permanent Samadhi for every mission. There's no way Tom would have won CYOG or Row Your Boat alone, and Try Tri Again would have been harder, too. Purple should have realized that keeping Brown in the game would make it that much easier for them (Purple) to win the upcoming missions.
E4: At F5, Green sends Orange to temple.
Of Red, Blue, and Orange, Orange was the weakest team left. It felt like Green was motivated by revenge more than anything else. They should have sent Red if they wanted to eliminate a strong team, or Blue if they wanted to try to keep Red mostly happy for the next few days.
E5: Cameron's decision to follow Dakota's plan and put Taylor with Connor during the teammate switch.
It basically both gave Taylor what she wanted and made her less of a target for one round, since (as has already been mentioned above) Ike was the primary reason his team was targeted both before and after the switch. Also, it made Cameron look like the bad guy when he was more of just a cog in the machine. It would have taken an ENORMOUS amount of guile, but if Cameron had switched Darci with Kelsey...man, can you imagine how different the season might have been? I could see Red winning in that scenario, even if Dakota and Kelsey hated them.
E6: Briana's bad attitude.
I know the RTS didn't go her way in terms of her preferred partner staying around, but her attitude made Yellow so easy to pick off.
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Post by waterwoodfire on Apr 24, 2019 11:08:34 GMT -5
On the point of sending orange in E4, Isaac seemed close to Blue and that ultimately paid off when Blue was eliminated as they left their 2 pieces to Green. Blue also didn't win anything outside of the superteam mission so they weren't much of a threat anyway.
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Post by Cruise meerkat Youssy on Apr 24, 2019 12:20:35 GMT -5
Also, Green E4 wasn’t gonna send Blue because Isaac and Amelia were a thing. So sending Orange, who they weren’t aligned to in any way, was probably a good decision for them at the time (hindsight 20/20 though).
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Post by multiyapples on Jun 9, 2019 19:42:50 GMT -5
Every decision blue made in Endurance 1. Yes they won but they didn't make it easy for themselves.
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Post by multiyapples on Jun 12, 2019 19:00:23 GMT -5
You can add Orange of E2. More specifically Tyler. I do wish they had won though.
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Post by amplify26 on Jul 2, 2019 0:36:18 GMT -5
You can add Orange of E2. More specifically Tyler. I do wish they had won though. I'm looking at your comment, and I don't think Orange had many strategies, really. They were lumped in PROG early on, but that was such a loose alliance it didn't make too much impact on the game. The closest I could imagine was when Orange threw the Samadhi out of the game, and Purple gave them all their pieces. |
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Post by multiyapples on Jul 3, 2019 16:28:31 GMT -5
I felt bad that Michelle didn't win in E2 because she wanted to talk her mom on a vacation.
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Post by multiyapples on Jul 5, 2019 10:27:39 GMT -5
Also for Endurance Hawaii the Brown Team giving Orange Team a chance to play in Squaring Off.
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Post by crystalclearhawaii on Jul 7, 2019 10:19:18 GMT -5
Also for Endurance Hawaii the Brown Team giving Orange Team a chance to play in Squaring Off. That was just awful. I cringe every time! |
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Post by Cruise meerkat Youssy on Sept 26, 2020 17:18:05 GMT -5
Though it’s been said, after rewatching E2, Purple sending Yellow instead of Green at final 5 was definitely a big blunder. Yes, there was the Annie/Calley and also the underrated Annie/Mike alliance... but Green was so much stronger than Yellow, and any of the teams that won final 4 would’ve sent Purple because Purple was such a strong team. Better to guarantee sending home your strong competition and leaving a team with virtually no shot of winning (Yellow) in the game.
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Post by Mister Ham on Sept 27, 2020 21:20:28 GMT -5
Def brown in squaring off. Never give away the power when you know the other group is working together!!
I’d also say Gray volunteering to go to temple in e1. Sure, they didn’t know what was there, but would you want to risk it? The challenge could have been anything!!
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