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Post by nobo71 on Jun 29, 2020 12:20:47 GMT -5
As we know there is a very high chance that there will be a Karma 2. What changes do you think that they should make in order to make a better product?
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Post by heycaleb on Jun 29, 2020 12:48:25 GMT -5
As we know there is a very high chance that there will be a Karma 2. What changes do you think that they should make in order to make a better product? Other places to hangout or chill. In s1, they had the Crow's Nest. In s2, I feel like they should have more in s2. |
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Post by weew000 on Jun 29, 2020 13:05:51 GMT -5
As we know there is a very high chance that there will be a Karma 2. What changes do you think that they should make in order to make a better product? Other places to hangout or chill. In s1, they had the Crow's Nest. In s2, I feel like they should have more in s2. I agree with this as well. They only had that little tree thing and the tents, there should be more spots. |
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Post by weew000 on Jun 29, 2020 13:09:12 GMT -5
As we know there is a very high chance that there will be a Karma 2. What changes do you think that they should make in order to make a better product? As far as I can say, when I'm watching something (a show) and I feel it's very repetitive, it makes me not wanna watch it. All types of changes are great. The challenges, location, scenery, etc. I think they should keep the Cave of Karma and the necklaces however, because it makes it organized and have somewhat of a similarity between seasons so you're not like "Wait is this Karma or a different show?" |
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Post by Joseph2020 on Jun 29, 2020 20:10:38 GMT -5
Apparently,i Just Made a Discovery That Is Shocking,If You Watch The Latest Podcast For Karma, You Won't Gonna Believe,
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Post by Joseph2020 on Jun 29, 2020 20:14:15 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaE0B2T39Cc&t=3315s One Of The Contestants From Endurance High Sierras,Lily Who Works On The Reboot, Is Wearing a Unknowned New Karma T-Shirt Color, Black!! Possumbly,Definitely a New Team Color For Season 2,And Will Add With The Existed Pink Team, The Black Team!! With a Twist To Either,The Season 2 Cast That Didn't Made The (RTS) Could Come Back To Form The Black Team, Or Brining Back Season 1 Former Contestants For The Second Season
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Post by Cruise meerkat Youssy on Jun 29, 2020 21:09:50 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaE0B2T39Cc&t=3315s One Of The Contestants From Endurance High Sierras,Lily Who Works On The Reboot, Is Wearing a Unknowned New Karma T-Shirt Color, Black!! Possumbly,Definitely a New Team Color For Season 2,And Will Add With The Existed Pink Team, The Black Team!! With a Twist To Either,The Season 2 Cast That Didn't Made The (RTS) Could Come Back To Form The Black Team, Or Brining Back Season 1 Former Contestants For The Second Season It’s more likely I feel that she just screen printed a shirt with the logo as a crewmember |
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Post by carsonvega on Jun 29, 2020 22:00:04 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaE0B2T39Cc&t=3315s One Of The Contestants From Endurance High Sierras,Lily Who Works On The Reboot, Is Wearing a Unknowned New Karma T-Shirt Color, Black!! Possumbly,Definitely a New Team Color For Season 2,And Will Add With The Existed Pink Team, The Black Team!! With a Twist To Either,The Season 2 Cast That Didn't Made The (RTS) Could Come Back To Form The Black Team, Or Brining Back Season 1 Former Contestants For The Second Season
I was on the staff for a weeklong camp when I was in high school, and a couple of weekend camps when I was in college.
It's pretty common that the camp staff wears the same type of clothing as the participants, but in a different color to clearly identify them as staff. (It was red for my weeklong camp because the participants' colors were blue/yellow/gray, and gray/black/pink for my weekend camps because the participants had red/orange/yellow/green/blue/purple.)
I know Karma is a TV show and not just a camp, but I feel like the situation is probably similar. I would bet that Lilly and pretty much everyone else working behind the camera or off camera got a black shirt like that.
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Post by neonhusky1011 on Jul 9, 2020 19:48:59 GMT -5
Honestly there are two things I want for season 2
A ACTUAL INTRO, not to hate on the work of the amazing post-production team, but that “intro” was weak. I’ve always had a deep appreciation for tv show intros because it sets the tone and give you the whole vibe of the show in 30sec(or more, or less), so to see that the intro was pretty much just the show’s title and some cool logo animation was pretty sad. Like it would be cool if the intro showcased the laws of Karma, the players or the teams, and some quick shots of the challenges and the cave.
Also the second thing I want is some sort of disadvantage bounty, like the samadhi, but I feel like to do that they would need to add a second challenge to each round of the game. Like a Karma challenge then a cave challenge. I feel like a disadvantage can really play a huge part into Karma!
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Post by kwdrewfan on Jul 10, 2020 10:53:14 GMT -5
I have a long list of changes I would like to see for season 2 hahaha, but here are some of the highlights:
- Brief introductions to all players before the competition starts
- More variety in challenges (ring the bell was great!) - less targeting, more mental
- Additional episodes in-between eliminations, or at least occasionally throughout the season, would be beneficial. This would provide more challenge variety, more opportunities for weaker teams to win, and more time to get to know the players & see their strategic gameplay (this might be dependant on the # of episodes HBO grants the show, though? Not 100% sure)
- The idea of a Final Challenge is preferable (imo) to Final Temple from Endurance. However, the phrase was pretty easily guessable and I feel that it would be more exciting if the teams had to unlock their medallions / solve the word scramble on the spot
...I would also like to see some changes to the CoK format. I think the Cave game is fine in itself, but my issue is with all of the safe teams offering their 'favorite' team an advantage. I know the message is supposed to be karma & all that, but imo this format makes it too easy for teams to get away with picking favorites/targeting others without necessarily having to employ much strategy of their own. Maybe in addition to choosing who goes to the cave, the same winning team wins the opportunity to give THEIR favorite team an advantage? Or, with an additional challenge in the mix, the reward could be a coin advantage for one of the teams? Idk. At the very least, I think the coin offerings should be done in private so that the contestants don't feel peer pressure from everyone else to choose the 'popular' team (Re: Andi with Skylie).
I genuinely enjoyed season 1 of Karma, you guys, I promise LOL! I think it is a great start to what could hopefully be another iconic series like Endurance. But I also think it's important to be able to consume media with a critical eye while still liking it as a whole, so that was my goal while watching Karma. I do have critiques, but that doesn't take away from how much I enjoyed the show regardless! I can't wait to see what they do with season 2!
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Post by carsonvega on Jul 12, 2020 0:30:01 GMT -5
I genuinely enjoyed season 1 of Karma, you guys, I promise LOL! I think it is a great start to what could hopefully be another iconic series like Endurance. But I also think it's important to be able to consume media with a critical eye while still liking it as a whole, so that was my goal while watching Karma. I do have critiques, but that doesn't take away from how much I enjoyed the show regardless! I can't wait to see what they do with season 2!
I apologize to you and anyone else who might have felt put off by what I posted in the general discussion thread. I enjoy criticism if it is constructive (suggesting improvements) and especially if it's well thought out and clever, and I completely agree that media should not be blindly accepted or praised without criticism. I'm mainly wary of criticism that suggests that things were rigged to achieve a certain outcome, that a specific team was assured of victory or defeat prior to a game of chance/luck even starting, or that some teams should not have gotten as far as they did (unless there's evidence that rules were broken, of course, which hasn't happened as far as I know). Your critiques were good and I appreciated reading them.
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Some of my thoughts:
One thing that I think they could do which would kind of increase the mental/strategic elements of the game, and might be incorporated into a challenge or might not be, would be to use a survey similar to Endurance 1 in Plant the Flag/Squeeze Play. Endurance 1 used lots of questions...which team is in charge...which team is the most honest...which team never shuts up...which team would change partners if they could...which team will be next to leave...which team would do anything to win...etc. Some of those questions might work again, or they could use "meaner" ones (which team do you most want to see not win...which team is the most annoying...which team is the biggest poser...etc.) Alternatively, they could use "nicer" questions as well and perhaps give small "rewards" to the teams selected (which team most deserves a snack/treat...which team has impressed you the most...which team has treated you with the most respect...etc.) [Some similar "rewards" were given in an episode of Survivor Guatemala - www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmgC_3FouxM - sorry, I know it's sped up/has high pitch but it was the one I could find.] Specifically with respect to the "rewards", and if they have one contestant pick all the teams again like Mack did, they could have two teams named for wanting to switch partners if they could, and then allow those teams to switch partners but only if they actually wanted to, so as to avoid the type of nastiness that came up in Endurance 5. If they would make everyone's answer to each question public, it would help to reveal which teams were forming alliances and which teams were being ganged up on (if a specific team becomes the answer to every "mean" question) without necessarily making it have an effect in a challenge (unlike targeting challenges like Fill and Spill). With all that said, if they would actually build the questions into a challenge, hopefully they would come up with a better setup than Squeeze Play.
I think a mental-type challenge they might use in the late game (maybe even the final challenge instead of a phrase) might be like a word search, crossword, or code wheel where the teams have to be able to use the names of all the players in the game and perhaps the team colors of those teams as well. They could make it pretty hard by making sure to include the last names of all the contestants and not giving a word bank (for a word search or crossword). For a code wheel setup, they could add an element of the Karma law of Humility by having the teams list all the names they had to find, but somehow the list is not accepted unless the team puts their own names at the very bottom of the list.
One way they could change the issue of picking a single favorite team too much in the Cave of Karma would be to mark each Karma coin separately with the color of the team that gave the coin. Then, they could say that if that coin is found during the Cave of Karma pot smashing, the team that gave out the coin either gets it back to use in the future (even on themselves), or they get some other reward (maybe another medallion or something?) If the coin they give is not found, they get no benefit. This would mean that in the event the not-at-risk teams all give their coins to the same team, at most one of those teams will really benefit and possibly none of the teams will, if the coin(s) found is/are the free one(s) Michelle always gives out to the teams going to the Cave. The potential disadvantage to something like this would be both teams needing to find a large number of coins, which can result in a big advantage to the team that gets to smash their pots first (as I discussed in my math thread). If they did do something like this, the smash-first advantage should probably be eliminated - that is, both teams would get to smash the same number of pots unless the team smashing second could not tie even if they found a coin on that smash (which happened at the end of the Yellow-Gray Cave of Karma in Episode 4, for example). |
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Post by multiyapples on Jul 12, 2020 21:35:05 GMT -5
I had this problem with Endurance as well but I think the promo for the and intro to the episode shouldn't give away spoilers for the rest of the season or that episode if possible. I also think a change should be made to the challenges where if for some reason or another a person can't compete then the partner should still compete.
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Post by neonhusky1011 on Sept 8, 2020 7:58:53 GMT -5
I want to personally see what it would be like to have a “anonymous” offering, what I mean by anonymous is maybe each team going to the cave has a offering box, then when it comes time for the offering, each goes into a offering booth, then places their coin in which ever box they want. Then they take the boxes to the cave with them, and open them there. Maybe each coin could have a marking of the team that put it in?
Also it would be cool if each round of the game there was either a hidden coin somewhere at camp (basically like a hidden immunity idol)
Or even a mini challenge for the teams going to the cave to earn a extra coin.
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Post by fanofe2 on Sept 23, 2020 2:43:14 GMT -5
I'm still not sure who gets to smash first, but I'd like to see both smash at the same time if there's an equal number of medallions.
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Post by fanofe2 on Oct 25, 2020 22:54:42 GMT -5
Assuming there is a season 2, I'd like to see some sort of cool camera effect when eliminated teams leave. What they did in Endurance "don't count me out until I'm burned at the temple" was so cool.
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