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Post by kwdrewfan on Apr 12, 2019 20:37:07 GMT -5
I will agree that there were some janky missions. E5 superteams twist is one of the worst ones as well. I also didn't like the "sit out the Temple mission" Samadhis. I know they were going for the most dramatic they could get but it felt actually very unfair. RT this. I've always had a big problem with the 'sitting out' samadhis; at that point, it's not even a disadvantage. It's just a disqualifier. |
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Post by waterwoodfire on Apr 24, 2019 10:57:06 GMT -5
I disagree with the opinion that Will shouldn't have been on the show despite having not seen Endurance prior. The casting specials during Hawaii that the producers wanted to have contestants that had not heard of the show and the green team's performance showed that he was a strong contestant.
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Post by Cruise meerkat Youssy on Apr 24, 2019 12:21:53 GMT -5
I disagree with the opinion that Will shouldn't have been on the show despite having not seen Endurance prior. The casting specials during Hawaii that the producers wanted to have contestants that had not heard of the show and the green team's performance showed that he was a strong contestant. I mean he was strong, but I just don’t like the fact that he beat out actual superfans to be on the show. I would always support a fan getting to live their dream over a rando who wanted to be on TV. |
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Post by Cruise meerkat Youssy on Jan 2, 2020 20:54:40 GMT -5
Unpopular opinion: I loved the concept of Squaring Off. It’s just annoying to watch when the teams are so clique-y and it gets to a point where it just rotates. But on seasons where the teams aren’t as clique-y... like just imagine that game in E4. It would’ve been veryyy interesting.
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Post by carsonvega on Jan 2, 2020 23:46:42 GMT -5
Unpopular opinion: I loved the concept of Squaring Off. It’s just annoying to watch when the teams are so clique-y and it gets to a point where it just rotates. But on seasons where the teams aren’t as clique-y... like just imagine that game in E4. It would’ve been veryyy interesting. Interesting...
I think if Squaring Off had happened with 7 teams left in E4, Green/Purple/Red/Yellow would eliminate Gray and Blue for sure, and probably Orange as well, without letting them get a turn. Gray and Blue would still go to Temple.
If it had happened with 6 teams left in E4, I think Green/Purple/Red/Yellow would similarly eliminate Blue and Orange, and those two teams would go to Temple.
It might have worked well with 5 teams left. Red wasn't happy about getting the Samadhi, and both Blue and Orange seemed in danger of going to Temple had Purple not been already slotted to go due to their loss in Waterworks. Assuming Red still got the Samadhi and the Samadhi didn't eliminate them from the game (maybe they would have to start with 10-25% of their squares already covered?)...Red seems kind of stuck. They probably don't want to completely take Green and Purple out of the game in a potential Red-Orange-Blue rotation, but they do probably want to let Green know that giving them (Red) the Samadhi was a bad idea, and also possibly send Green to Temple. But Red can't both let Purple win to overcome the Waterworks loss AND get Green sent to Temple, because there would be no way Purple would send Green.
In the end, I think Red probably sides with Purple and Green, and Green makes sure Purple wins (since Red would start at a disadvantage). Purple probably sends Blue and Orange to Temple. If this had happened, hopefully the show would have gone into detail about how Red came to their decision (on par with how much discussion they showed in E2 when Orange decided to remove the Samadhi from the game).
Speaking of E2, that also might have been an interesting season for Squaring Off, depending on when they had it. With 7 teams left, would the Brown/Green/Yellow alliance have been eliminated by the other 4? Or would Christa have been willing to pass to one of those three teams, and get that done over Scooter's objections? Would Tyler have cared enough to at least make sure Orange did not go to Temple for the second time in a row? Squaring Off might also have been interesting with 6 teams left in E2.
In E1, I'm pretty sure Blue/Yellow/Red systematically eliminate the other teams. In E5, I'm 100% sure Purple/Green/Red/Orange systematically eliminate the other teams. In E6, Green/Orange/Red win - unless the game was held with only 4 teams left, which seems like it would be too small of a game. |
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Post by neonhusky1011 on Feb 2, 2020 20:22:51 GMT -5
I don't know about you guys, but I always loved the temples throughout the seasons, even when they take the trip to temple, I've liked that segment.
My favorite temples were Fiji (Even tho I hate the fact that they went in the jungle instead of at the temple for the final), Hawaii (My favorite temple mechanism, PERIOD) and Mexico (E2)
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Post by multiyapples on Aug 31, 2020 0:44:43 GMT -5
Alex & Cealey deserved to win Endurance: High Sierras more than Dakota & Kelsey. I actually 100% agree with this. It's something I realized on my most recent rewatch. For me, it's all about attitude; during the last few episodes, Purple's attitude got progressively worse - I'll refer to a lot of the things mentioned by carsonvega, in addition to how much they kept saying things like "we don't want Green to win, at all, we think we deserve it more than they do". Whereas Green at that point was starting to acknowledge where they went wrong during the game, how grateful they were to make it so far & especially to be there with their closest friends, and just focused so much more on positive things. Green (especially Cealey) gets such a bad rep for having "bad attitudes" and being mean, but to be honest... I didn't see it very much on my last rewatch. Cealey's blowout on Taylor in the final 4 is the only thing that stands out. All in all, I think both Kelsey and Dakota had worse attitudes than either Cealey or Alex. I can also say that I partially agree with carsonvega on Hawaii; I actually didn't enjoy that season as much as I thought I would this time around. The clique-y mindset was a huge turnoff for me, along with knowing the whole time that Gray was going to win, all the strategic moves that could have been made but weren't, the overall COMPLETE ignorance of applying real strategy as everyone just based their decisions on who they didn't like. Gray won another mission? Welp, you already know exactly what they're going to do. Purple won? They're doing whatever Gray would do. Orange? Same thing. Everybody was so noticeably immature save for a few exceptions (Monroe, Bryanah, Demian), especially in comparison to other seasons. I found it a little boring because it was predictable and there wasn't much to look forward to. (pretty much all of this also applies to E5 haha, but that's not what we're talking about here.) The final four deal between Orange & Yellow is really the only strategic highlight of this season. I thought the location was a cool choice, though, which is why I said I only partially agree  but I can see the validity in your points on that as well. I will definitely be revisiting this thread if I think of anything else! Love this kind of discussion! I'd argue that Alex, Bjorn, Tom, and Antonio as well as the kids eliminated in both right to stay were just as mature. |
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Post by amplify26 on Jul 26, 2022 21:48:30 GMT -5
I'm rewatching endurance Tehachapi at the moment, and is it just me, or is Purple not the underdog they really are?
The things which made them stand out as the underdog was how Chris put Daniela with Jonathan instead of Michael, resulting in some kinks within their teamwork. In addition, Daniela wasn't one of the strongest players initially, and Jonathan looked small.
Despite that, Jonathan was frequently one of the last contestants standing in endurance challenges, and they won Raft Pull two days later. In addition, they had a strong alliance with Green, to the point Green was willing to throw Fireball for them.
In contrast, Red seems like the bigger underdog edit--despite Erika being probably one of the strongest competitors ever, they basically balanced being between the Green/Purple alliance and everyone else. They were the only team to get the Samadhi more than once, and went to Temple twice because they were seen as a threat (whereas Purple went up to Temple twice because of them failing to win crucial Temple missions).
Then there's Blue, but they didn't win anything, so...
Also, Drop Out is still overrated (though I did like the in-game banter!)
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Post by waterwoodfire on Jul 27, 2022 19:32:24 GMT -5
I think in the end, Purple ended up with the same number of mission wins as Green (though that includes the superteam).
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Post by amplify26 on Sept 13, 2022 20:08:48 GMT -5
Alex & Cealey deserved to win Endurance: High Sierras more than Dakota & Kelsey. I actually 100% agree with this. It's something I realized on my most recent rewatch. For me, it's all about attitude; during the last few episodes, Purple's attitude got progressively worse - I'll refer to a lot of the things mentioned by carsonvega, in addition to how much they kept saying things like "we don't want Green to win, at all, we think we deserve it more than they do". Whereas Green at that point was starting to acknowledge where they went wrong during the game, how grateful they were to make it so far & especially to be there with their closest friends, and just focused so much more on positive things. Green (especially Cealey) gets such a bad rep for having "bad attitudes" and being mean, but to be honest... I didn't see it very much on my last rewatch. Cealey's blowout on Taylor in the final 4 is the only thing that stands out. All in all, I think both Kelsey and Dakota had worse attitudes than either Cealey or Alex. I just rewatched High Sierras, and while I can understand why people think this (especially with how Purple acted like they would be handed the trip to Hawaii), I cannot agree with this. Kudos for Alex and Cealey for pulling their strength when they needed too (and beating out two of the strongest forces of their season), but when it comes down to it, I see this: one team who has won multiple missions, had a pretty tight alliance, and maneuvered their way to the finale without going to Temple once, and a team which seemed to luck out their way into the final. What did it mean for the series if a winner just won out of the blue? Speaking of which, is it just me, or am I weird for having a bigger soft spot for Taylor (e5) than I do for Bryanah (e3)? |
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